Kelowna Real Estate Podcast

112: The Cowichan Tribe Case: Unprecedented Uncertainty of BC Property Rights with Cassels Brock & Blackwell's Thomas Isaac

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Episode 112: Matt and Taylor are joined by Thomas Isaac. Tom is an Aboriginal Law Lawyer & Partner at Cassels Brock & Blackwell LLP from Vancouver, BC. Tom is a nationally recognized authority in the area of Aboriginal law, advising clients across Canada on Aboriginal legal matters and related environmental assessments, negotiations, and regulatory and constitutional issues affecting major projects. His litigation practice is national in scope and focuses on representing clients in Aboriginal related matters.
 
Tom has represented industry and government clients before the Supreme Court of Canada, Federal Court of Canada, Ontario Court of Appeal, Ontario Divisional Court, British Columbia Court of Appeal, British Columbia Supreme Court, Northwest Territories Supreme Court, Yukon Supreme Court, National Energy Board, Ontario Energy Board, and the British Columbia Environmental Appeal Board.
 
Tom is here to discuss:→ The Cowichan Tribes v. Canada ruling setting a major province-wide precedent, where else in BC is there assertion of Aboriginal title, and if the case will escalate to Canada's supreme court.→ The inherent conflict between Aboriginal and indefeasible title, the difference between reserve land and Aboriginal title, and how this is impacting BC's real estate market.→ Why the BC government needs to act, what's at stake for BC's future, and how we can move forward in reconciliation.
 
Government of BC Indigenous Relations Website: www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/indigenous-relations-reconciliation
Treaty Commissioner Website: www.otc.ca
Crown-Indigenous Relations Website: www.canada.ca/crown-indigenous-relations
 
Cassels Brock & Blackwell LLP Website: www.cassels.com
Cassels Brock & Blackwell LLP Instagram: @cassels_law
Cassels Brock & Blackwell LLP LinkedIn: @CasselsBrock&BlackwellLLP
Thomas Isaac LinkedIn: @ThomasIsaac
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Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
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Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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111: Kelowna's Unique Approach to Funding It's 2026 Billion-Dollar Budget with City of Kelowna's Doug Gilchrist

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Episode 111: Matt and Taylor are joined by Doug Gilchrist. Doug is the City Manager, also known as Chief Administration Officer (CAO), for the City of Kelowna from Kelowna, BC. Doug has worked for the city since 2004, and became the City Manager in 2018. The City of Kelowna is unique in it's low reliance on property taxation, which makes up only 20% of the city's billion dollar operational budget for 2026.
 
Doug is here to discuss:→ The billion-dollar 2026 Kelowna city budget, how it's funded, and it's top priorities including public safety & infrastructure.→ Plans for changes to short-term rentals, the growing imbalance between the development of rental & fee simple product, and the plans for the property around the marina and the Clement extension.→ Major city events driving Kelowna's economic development, the health of Kelowna's economy, and the 9% traffic increase of Kelowna's airport, which is the largest municipal-owned in the country.→ Investing in solutions for the unhoused, the legalities of tent cities, and why we need to look at bringing back the approach of mandatory care.
 
City of Kelowna Website: www.kelowna.ca
City of Kelowna Instagram: @cityofkelowna
City of Kelowna LinkedIn: @CityofKelowna
City of Kelowna YouTube: @cityofkelowna
Doug Gilchrist's LinkedIn: @DougGilchrist
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The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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110: The Current State of Downtown Kelowna with Downtown Kelowna Association's Paula Quinn

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Episode 110: Matt and Taylor are joined by Paula Quinn. Paula is the Executive Director of the Downtown Kelowna Association from Kelowna, BC, who's lived here for almost 20 years after moving to Canada 25 years ago from London, England. Also A board member of WeBC, COEDC, and the Kelowna Chamber of Commerce, Paula was awarded the 2025 Kelowna Women in Business "Women of the Year", and is a tireless advocate for local businesses, women entrepreneurs, and inclusive economic development.
 
The Downtown Kelowna Association (DKA) is responsible for marketing, promotion, furthering trade and commerce, and providing programs and services to local businesses that will assist them to thrive and grow in the Downtown core. Employing a unique approach, the DKA runs the third largest holistic safety and cleanliness initiative in British Columbia, including early morning cleanup teams and safe evening walks to cars for workers.
 
Paula is here to discuss:→ Her career so far, why she loves living downtown, and getting involved in the Downtown Kelowna Association.→ What the DKA does, their unique, holistic approach to safety & community, and how they're involved in community events & initiatives like Meet Me on Bernard.→ The current state of downtown Kelowna, if adding fast-food restaurants is a good idea, and the barriers we need to overcome to attract more people to the city's core.→ How important downtown is to Kelowna's overall economy, the mindset shifts that need to happen among downtown businesses, and the projected doubling of those living downtown by 2040.
 
Downtown Kelowna Association Website: www.downtownkelowna.com
Downtown Kelowna Association Instagram: @downtownkelowna
Downtown Kelowna Association LinkedIn: @DowntownKelownaAssociation
Downtown Kelowna Association YouTube: @downtownkelowna7882
Paula Quinn's Email: executivedirector@downtownkelowna.com
Paula Quinn's LinkedIn: @PaulaQuinn
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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109: Looking Through the Crystal Ball of Canadian Real Estate with Avesdo Technologies' Ben Smith

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Episode 109: Matt and Taylor are joined by Ben Smith. Ben is the President & CEO of Avesdo Technologies from Vancouver, BC, and a pioneer in digital marketing within the real estate development industry and more recently is leading the way for digital sales.
 
Having marketed more than 15,000 homes and launched hundreds of new communities, Ben's leadership in digitizing the new home sales process was solidified in 2020 when he led a developer to the first online sales transaction in Canada. His experience and commitment has made him a trusted leader to set a path for the new home sales and marketing industry into a more digital future.
 
Avesdo provides a single, integrated Transaction Management Software (TMS) solution for new home sales, built to manage the unique processes and data associated with new home transactions and their evolution through the entire lifecycle of development. Avesdo has helped hundreds of developers to transact tens of thousands of homes worth billions of dollars.
 
Ben is here to discuss:→ His journey in real estate, what Avesdo does, and how Boomers play a huge role in Canadian real estate.→ When the data showed we were going to have a housing problem, Canada's difficulty with project financing, and what's selling right now for pre-sales.→ Possible solutions to help the housing crisis, current market opportunities, and predictions for 2026 & 2027.
 
Avesdo Website: www.avesdo.com
Avesdo Instagram: @avesdo.technologies
Avesdo LinkedIn: @Avesdo
Ben Smith's LinkedIn: @BenSmith
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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108: The Current Challenges Facing Restaurants in Kelowna with Salt & Brick's Casey Greabeiel

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Episode 108: Matt and Taylor are joined by Casey Greabeiel. Casey, an experienced restaurant entrepreneur from Calgary, Alberta, owns multiple restaurants in Kelowna including Salt & Brick (of which he also owns a location in Calgary), Diner Deluxe, and is a Co-Founder of Pretty Not Bad (PNB). In addition, Casey is the VP of Operations for GRETA, an arcade bar with locations in Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, and soon to be Winnipeg.
 
Casey is here to discuss:→ His history in the restaurant industry, how he ended up owning multiple restaurants in Kelowna, and where Casey is opening his next restaurant.→ What key factors make it difficult to run a restaurant in Kelowna, and why the Meet Me on Bernard program keeps shrinking. → The unique impact of short-term rental legislation on Kelowna businesses, and if Kelowna has lost the trust of the business community.
 
Casey Greabeiel's LinkedIn: @CaseyGreabeiel
Casey Greabeiel's Instagram: @caseygreabeiel
Salt & Brick (Kelowna) Instagram: @saltandbrick_
Pretty Not Bad Instagram: @prettynotbadylw
Diner Deluxe Instagram: @dinerdeluxeylw
Salt & Brick (Calgary) Instagram: @saltandbrickyyc
GRETA Website: www.gretabar.com
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
Kelowna Real Estate Podcast: @kelownarealestate
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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107: Why a Good Lawyer is Crucial in a Real Estate Transaction with Pushor Mitchell LLP's Patrick Bobyn

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Episode 107: Matt and Taylor are joined by Patrick Bobyn. Patrick is a Partner at Pushor Mitchell LLP from Kelowna, BC, who's also the Vice-President of the Board of Directors for the Kelowna Chamber of Commerce. Patrick's practice areas are primarily business law, real estate, and financial institution security. He places an emphasis on building a trusting relationship with those he works with, while focusing on providing efficient, effective, and cost-friendly services to his clients.
 
Pushor Mitchell LLP is a full-service law firm, and the largest firms outside the lower mainland, with a team of over 50 lawyers and over 100 staff serving clients across Western Canada and the U.S. Established in 1906, the Kelowna Chamber of Commerce is a not-for-profit organization improving the effectiveness of doing business for it's members in the Okanagan valley. It is a major catalyst for business growth and partnerships within a diverse and fast-growing business community.
 
Patrick is here to discuss:→ His role in the Kelowna COC, the state of small businesses in Kelowna, and how you can get involved the Kelowna COC.→ The lawyer's role in a real estate transaction, purchase contracts & holdbacks, and the impact of price reductions or credits at closing.→ Compliance changes with title insurance, the first-time homebuyers GST rebate, and what happens if sellers can't afford Realtor commissions.
 
Kelowna Chamber of Commerce Website: www.kelownachamber.org
Kelowna Chamber of Commerce LinkedIn: @KelownaChamber
Pushor Mitchell Website: www.pushormitchell.com
Pushor Mitchell LinkedIn: @PushorMitchellLLP
Pushor Mitchell Instagram: @pushormitchell
Patrick Bobyn's LinkedIn: @PatrickBobyn
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
Kelowna Real Estate Podcast: @kelownarealestate
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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106: The Realities of Real Estate Development Financing in 2025 with Lakepoint Capital's Caroline Coudreau

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Episode 106: Matt and Taylor are joined by Caroline Coudreau. Caroline is a CPA and Corporate Debt Advisor at Lakepoint Capital from Kelowna, BC, who relocated from Vancouver 2 years ago. Caroline joined Lakepoint Capital just over a year ago, bringing with her more than a decade of experience in commercial lending and financial analysis from her earlier career at Canada's largest Credit Union.
 
Founded in March of 2023, Lakepoint Capital specializes in Corporate Debt Advisory and Commercial Real Estate Financing, acting as a trusted intermediary between clients and a wide network of Canadian banks, credit unions, and non-bank lenders. The firm provides tailored financing solutions to successful business owners, real estate developers, and commercial property investors.
 
Caroline is here to discuss:→ The steps to take before getting project financing, what lenders like to see when getting quotes from builders, and the lowest profit margins for a lender.→ Why developers like phased projects, pre-sales impact on financing, and land financing and it's increasing costs.→ Problems holding up development right now, current difficulties in making projects pencil, and if housing costs will continue to rise.
 
Lakepoint Capital Website: www.lakepointcapital.ca
Lakpoint Capital Instagram: @lakepointcapital
Caroline Coudreau's LinkedIn: @CarolineCoudreau
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
Kelowna Real Estate Podcast: @kelownarealestate
Kelowna Real Estate Podcast YouTube: @KelownaRealEstatePodcast
Kelowna Real Estate Podcast Instagram: @kelownarealestatepodcast
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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105: Everything You Need to Know About Working with a Realtor in BC with Century 21's Dean Desrosiers

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Episode 105: Matt and Taylor are re-joined by Dean Desrosiers. Dean is an Owner/Partner, Associate Broker, and Coach at Century 21 Assurance Realty Ltd. from Kelowna, BC, which has been ranked one of the top 5 Century 21 franchises in all of Canada since 2019.
 
Dean entered real estate in 2008 and since joining Century21, he has achieved Centurion® status each year. In 2018, Dean became a certified real estate coach and was elected to the Okanagan Mainline Real Estate Board (OMREB) of directors. He coaches licensed agents and conducts training seminars regularly for Realtors and real estate investors, helping agents achieve their goals and live a great life. 
 
Dean is here to discuss:→ How real estate is different in BC compared to other provinces, the 2018 regulation change on dual agency for Realtors, the importance of consumer informed consent & disclosure forms (DORTS).→ What makes Realtor.ca unique for Canadians, if virtual tours will ever replace in-person showings, and what you need to be aware when attending an open house.→ The truth about agent commissions, the benefits of working with a Realtor on pre-sale developments, and if consumers should call listing agents themselves.
 
Dean's 1st Appearance in Episode 28: https://KelownaRealEstate.podbean.com/e/episode-28-dean-desrosiers/
Dean's 2nd Appearance in Episode 79: https://KelownaRealEstate.podbean.com/e/79-dean-desrosiers/
 
Century 21 Assurance Realty Ltd Website: www.c21kelowna.ca
Dean Desrosiers' Email: dean.desrosiers@century21.ca
Dean Desrosiers' Instagram: @deanfromkelowna
Dean Desrosiers' LinkedIn: @DeanDesrosiers
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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104: Empowering Communities by Revolutionizing Middle Housing Development with mddl's Alkarim Devani

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Episode 104: Matt and Taylor are joined by Alkarim Devani. Alkarim is the CEO & Co-Founder of mddl from Calgary, Alberta, who's also the Co-Founder of the development company RNDSQR. Alkarim’s work has gained a multitude of media attention and frequently been the recipient of The Canadian Architecture Awards, MUDA Awards, American Architecture Prize, and the BILD Awards, as well as being a frequent guest lecturer at The University of California, Berkeley, and The University of Calgary. In addition, Alkarim regularly contributes his time to numerous volunteer organizations as well as a number of industry-led boards and communities including D.Talks and Calgary Housing Company.
 
mddl (pronounced “middle”) is an expert in middle housing, types that fall between single-family homes and apartment buildings, including townhouses, duplexes, and triplexes. As a CMHC Level Up Stage 5 Housing Supply Challenge Finalist, their mission, alongside strategic partners, is to build capacity from top to bottom, and to strategically partner with municipalities, industry experts, and citizens in reducing barriers and delivering middle housing to cities across Canada.
 
Alkarim is here to discuss:→ His journey in real estate and founding RNDSQR, what led to the founding of mddl, and working with governments to support the development of affordable housing.→ Why mddl started in Kelowna, what has been working so far in Calgary & Edmonton, and mddl's innovative resources & education programs to empower homeowners, including a GIS tool demo.→ Dealing with community concerns of infill housing and increasing community engagement, why development needs homeowners to succeed, and what's needed to make a culture shift in boomers when it comes to housing.
 
mddl Website: www.mddl.co
mddl Instagram: @mddl.co
mddl LinkedIn: @mddlco
Alkarim Devani's LinkedIn: @AlkarimDevani
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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103: The Housing Market's Not Crashing, The Industry Is with Urban Development Institute's Anne McMullin

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Episode 103: Matt and Taylor are joined by Anne McMullin. Anne is the President & CEO at the Urban Development Institute (UDI), a non-profit, non-partisan association of the development industry and its related professions, who has long advocated for transformational change. Her career has spanned over 35 years as a business leader, communications executive, and journalist. As an active voice and known thought-leader, the industry has seen the most significant change in housing policy in more than a generation through Anne's leadership.
 
With over 850 corporate members, the Urban Development Institute represents thousands of individuals involved in all facets of land development and planning, including: developers, property managers, financial lenders, lawyers, engineers, planners, architects, appraisers, real estate professionals, First Nations, local governments and government agencies.
 
Anne is here to discuss:→ What the UDI does, how developers are struggling right now, and the decreased development's impact on affordability.→ The crash of the housing industry, not the market, and if it can all turn around, current government policies affecting affordability, how government policy isn't always practical, and one policy change Anne would make right now.→ Upcoming changes to DCC fees, if BC needs to have property transfer tax, the flaws in the new "no GST for first-time buyers" policy, and how the foreign-buyers ban is actually hurting the housing market.
 
Urban Development Institute Website: www.udi.org
Urban Development Institute LinkedIn: @UrbanDevelopmentInstitute
Anne McMullin's LinkedIn: @AnneMcMullin
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OUR SPONSOR
The Kelowna Real Estate Podcast is brought to you by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the gold standard in real estate. To learn more, visit: www.c21kelowna.ca
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CONNECT WITH THE SHOW
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CONNECT WITH MATT
Matt Glen's Website: www.mattglen.ca
Matt Glen's Email: matt.glen@century21.ca
Matt Glen's Instagram: @mattglenrealestate
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CONNECT WITH TAYLOR
Taylor Atkinson's Website: www.venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Email: taylor@venturemortgages.com
Taylor Atkinson's Instagram: @VentureMortgages
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